Hackers have a knack for getting people to do stuff they normally wouldn’t do, and zane’s gift card hacking feature is no exception.

Zane has long been the go-to gift card-tracking tool for bloggers, and they’ve been using it to collect data about them for years.

In the latest episode of the podcast, I interview the company’s Chief Operating Officer, Adam S. Weintraub.

You can listen to the episode here.